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Hello all,

I've done some evolving in my thinking since last being here. Most of my internet posts are pretty long and i'm sure this will be no exception

I used to be a raw vegan high carb, mostly from fruit with liberal quantities of greens (cf Doug Graham, 80/10/10 or 30bananasaday), and I didn't feel bad on it. In fact I felt rather well.. that is when I wasn't preoccupied with food all day. One has to eat a lot, and also it stuffs the gut with fiber which may be hard on some people. But I usually feel just as well on quality cooked food (QCF)- which for me is plant based high carbohydrate, pure and chemical free. The difficulty is making sure that food is quality, and that can be really hard to do at a restaurant or other places. I'm sure I'd also feel really good if I included quality animal products in my diet but I haven't tried with meats.

I've come to the idea after studying some things that humans can survive and thrive on any diet type as long as the calories they consume are quality and nutrient rich calories- full calories as opposed to empty calories of oil/grease (or grainfed meats) and refined sugars and juices and overcooked food. In fact I'm reading again nutrition and physical degeneration, this time in more detail, and Price found that as well. Inuit as well as the tropical africans or was it latin americans who eat mostly carbs as well as masai who eat mostly protein. Now Vitamin D, which I have studied a lot since earlier, plays a huge role and I wonder, since D is found in seafood, whether humans could have populated such northern regions without seafood in their diet.

Now this is what I think, humans are truly omnivorous creatures in practice and they can thrive on it. I still tend to hold to the idea that the optimal diet is a high carb diet, meaning that animal foods gotta go. I believe this because of the results on the McDougall program, and how I feel, and that our main need by far is for energy, and carbohydrates are the cleanest burning fuel there is. I won't get into my thoughts on diabetics and I'm open to change, but I know many diabetics follow his program, as well as Doug Graham's raw program which is essentially the mcdougall program only raw. I eat this way because I believe in it nutritionally and also I have religious and spiritual and moral concerns about eating meat. But eat as you will. I believe the protocol in CTD may work and as long as you are making the world a better place, who am I to dictate diet to another?

I've read Cure Tooth Decay several times and I'll keep reading it. I believe he can achieve results.

What I want to share though is my change of thought about cooking and raw foods. There was this book "Catching FIre" by Richard Wrangham (check out youtube), which blew my mind. I thought that "no animal in nature cooks, and we're not born with a stove attached to us, case closed, end of story". This book opens it up. Humans have bigger brains than other creatures, and to achieve that we need to save energy on other systems of the body because neurons are greedy for oxygen and glucose, and to do that we shrink our gut size, relative to body size. This means we can't digest fibrous or energy poor foods, which leaves three possibilities, and they all may have played a role in human evoltion. They are meats, cooked foods, and very sweet fruit. There's not much very sweet fruit in the wild, so how could we evolve on it? Well, some of the sweetest wild fruit comes from borneo, which didn't suffer the ice age, so maybe the ice age came (which also dried africa out) and made these extinct and caused us to adapt. I think meat played a small role in our evolution, but not a great one, as it's not a great percentage of calories and not shared equally by all members of a primate group, but after cooking happened, meat eating may have rose. I think underground storage organs (roots and tubers) may have played a great role. I think we still have ancient metabolic pathways in fruits and vegetables which make them ideal. Why our guts didn't adapt to meats is that we've externalized the digestion before we would have evolved changes. I think we're best on fruits and vegetables but at the same time, we truly are flexitarian and an opportunivore, at least for survival mode. But at least when we are not surviving on empty calories, we will have relatively good health, such as seen in very few places.

Yeah cooking may have freed men and also influenced the evolution of family life and marriage relations. I'm blown away and hugely impressed by Richard Wrangham. At the same time, perhaps counter arguments can be made in favor of the raw foodists. But Wrangham admires then for their discipline and thinks it can be great for weight loss.

Ok, I was doing raw for a while, and certain tooth sensitivities went away and I felt more energy, after I quit doing what I had been. Teaching english in poland, I had been eating a lot of grains and beans, probably not enough vegetables, and not drinking nearly enough water. Nor brushing my teeth well enough and eating some tomato soup and potatoes at restaurants. But one thing has been objectively measured. On may first or second, I tested low in vitamin 25 D3, at 23ng/mL which should be at least 30 if not higher. Keep in mind, when the weather got warmer in april and the sun came out, I was doing everything I could to get as much of it as possible. And I still tested that low.

I did this testing at a special place in bulgaria. Yeah the benefits of money I guess. I want to find solutions for people without money. It's easy, but it takes knowledge and my learning curve has been expensive.

I started drinking a lot of water in poland and started to have these amazing experiences. I recommend reading any of Batmanghelidj's books. Tony Robbins really likes him and so do I. I had these great experiences, about 10 distinct and separable mental and physical positive experiences, but I also had one negative one. I was drinking massive amounts of water, to make up for a winter of very little, and I believe toxicity is negative hydration, so that the water was being used to transport the toxins out of my system. I know water doesn't detoxify. The body uses water to detoxify. I don't believe we can speed detoxification. But I believe, not doing the right things can limit the speed. But I had one negative experience. I think I suffered from hyponatremia, which they suggested to me on the raw forums, which is dilution of sodium in the blood, which can cause cramping. I believe my gallbladder was cramping, because it tested negative for stones and they did see some minor cramping in it, even when I wasn't hurting. When it was really going though, it was hurting massively. It always happened at night, after food, and lasted several hours, of excruciating pain, but it only happened three times thank god. I don't know if it was hyponatremia or what but I know I didn't want it again

So what did I do? There's not much celery over there, and I didn't want to do rock salt, because I don't believe in it. I think it is demineralizing and acid forming in several ways, forms HCl in the blood, cramps the cells and kills everything it touches. It is corrosive to metal and is so strongly bonded our bodies can't access either the sodium or the chlorine. So I went for tomatoes. I have to say I hadn't had any raw tomatoes in a long while. I rarely had them on my raw food diet. So two days on a lot of tomato, maybe 3-5 kilos, and they were juicy and tasty and I think heirlooms, thin skinned, broad shaped like cherokee purple, but light pink and looked nice. All I have to say is that my system crashed. My digestion got shot, my gum inflamed right where I just had a filling, I felt weak, my white spot lesion on my front tooth got brighter, my right hip even felt sensitive, slight pain, and I'm only 29. I remember reading what Ramiel wrote about these foods in his book- the first time I've ever heard of these ideas. I did research online, and wow, what I found. So much validation for my suffering, both in terms of other people's stories (nightshadefree.com and noarthritis.com) as well as science behind maybe why, all of the fat soluble alkaloids and things that interfere with vitamin D metabolism. My symptoms really resemble both hypercalcemia, and hypervitaminosis, according to wikipedia.

Now people might say I just ate too much and moderation is key. Well at least the people on the raw forums don't argue that, because they don't think that way about foods, and neither do I? If we have to moderate a food, ought we to eat it at all? I don't think that way. Small doses simply produce small problems, but better have no problems at all

So I've learned a lot about the nightshades and I'm studying them more and I am nightshade free, although I can't say I've ever had a noticable problem with potatoes. Maybe that's because cooking supposedly reduces the alkaloids by up to 50% Email me if you want a 16 page document of personal stories of people finding relief being nightshade free, and finding pain on reingestion. I do have to say this makes my life more complicated, because now how can I even start to eat at restaurants. Even the poha berries here in hawaii are a nightshade food. They try to trick me at every end. But it's worth feeling good. I'm too scared of testing it because I don't want to feel bad again, like I felt for that whole week and longer! It got better day by day but it was long in disappearing, and lately after eating at several asian restaurants, I think I had lttle flare up. It's hard to say because it's subtle.

I have no objection to eating animal foods - non meat, from healthy and happy animals, and I did a few times, and I would more under circumstances of needing food and having access to quality. Really I hope you guys appreciate this- that I've gotten softer in my views, because I used to be so hard. Heck, it was worth testing my ideas, testing raw, because who knows? Maybe raw food would turn a person into a superhealthy being, done right. Well honestly the raw diet didn't fail, and in fact succeeded, except it's too difficult to do in civilization, and it might even be easier to do in civilization than in the wild. So there you go. And I feel good on cooked and even with some dairy I'm sure provided it's nightshade and excitotoxin free. I think what makes me feel good is a balanced life, sufficient sleep, but one thing in particular is being at higher elevations. I felt so good at volcano national park visitors center, like I had in shasta and other californian and asian mountains. I'd like to live higher someday.

At home in ND I went to restaurants. Because it's hard to find meals that satiate me by providing a big enough portion size, and free of things I don't want, buffets seem the best, especially with groups of people with different taste. So I went to this one twice ,Golden Corrall. I didn't realize it was a chain. Days after it felt like someone was poking my tounge with a needle. I remember the carrots being a little too perfect in shape and cut, and the peas and carrots being a little too tasty for what they actually were. Shame on them if they put anything in them, or got them from a big business that did. Shame on them, for lo, they should be ashamed of themselves and repent and humble themselves. Shame on me too for going there, except people like to take me out. I did have my own kitchen and was on vacation.

But when I am working and living it can be hard to get enough "full" calories especially when I have so many restrictions. Actually it's easy- just cook simply and cook a lot and for what I want it's cheap to produce. Rice and broccoli or cabbage and I'm happy, three plates full so I'm sated and have energy to work, like McDougall says. But restaurants don't get it, and we are a catering dependent culture, because when I'm on my lunch at work what can I do? And when I get home late from the job? And I don't have a partner and if I did, maybe she'd be working. Oh you should see some quotes from Wrangham's book about bachelors living in subsistence societies, how they are poor people and don't have free time to do other things and how a woman giving food to a man is a sign of flirtation or even a marriage proposal, and eating together is a ceremony of marriage. I had gabriela but she's gone I'm trying to get her back. She's just like me in many ways, as crazy and eccentric as I am. Half a world away

Nutrition is complicated but nutrition is simple.

But let's see, Price found healthy teeth and gums on all sorts of diets. Best diet may actually depend on where one lives (with enough UVB sun for example), and ancestry may play a role (ability to digest lactose) but in general I adhere to the "species specific diet" concept. It makes the most sense to me, not blood type or any other type.

I think having thought about it a little, that Nagel is right about the correct elements of nutrition for healthy teeth, the fat soluble vitamins A, D, E and K as well as vitamin C, as well as phytic acid maybe from grains being negative though I'm not sure how bad these are if one is eating a balanced diet. I know Price would be cautious about forming this conclusion. But yeah I'm sure it's an influence too. I think our calcium needs are easily met, especially if we're not deficient in vitamin D. I think that may be the big one. I'd also add the influence of sufficient hydration, because that influences whether or not we have xerostomia (dry mouth) and in many other ways. Read Batmanghelidj!

So I think that while we humans can maybe just eat whole foods and give ourselves sun and everything we find ourselves craving, like sleep and rest and exercise, and not have to know anything about nutrition, I think Ramiel Nagel has got it, has hit the target as far as what elements of nutrition are what matter to the teeth. I disagree in the way he thinks there is almost only one flexible way to attain that. I disagree about how much calcium he says we need. Calcium recommendations vary so much worldwide, and whole societies have healthy bones after many pregnancies on small amounts of calcium, like 300g. If we eat a low protein diet and have good vitamin D, I think that influences it greatly. I really recommend that people stop wondering, and start getting their blood tested. I did. I really think we can get our K from greens, as well as everything else. Lettuce comes from root word related to lactus= milk. greens are nature's milk and one doesn't have to eat that much green- I relish a head of iceberg or romaine lettuce when my body needs it and can eat it straight and plain! Yeah and that furnishes all the K I am supposed to need according to RDA- and I'm still eating more food. Our guts are smaller as humans but not so small that we can't consume that much human hybridized nutrient rich and tender green leaves. If we need more calcium, I don't consider it a lot to eat a whole bunch of kale or cabbage cooked, and I definitely think that is easier than eating 5 or six oysters. Maybe I'm conditioned against eating them and eating meat, but I still don't understand how eating a bunch of kale cooked is that difficult- and we don't even need that much calcium. So again I think Ramiel has pinpointed what matters as far as diet elements, but I think we can attain that more flexibly

How have my teeth been? Since having them diagnosed as demineralized and some caries, only 2 of which I got filled, I haven't gone back to the dentist. I will soon, eventually, when I'm ready, psychologically and informationally. Things take time. It was probably all of those factors, the phytic acid in the grains I ate, the nightshades, the xerostomia, the lack of any hygiene, but I think above all it was maybe was lack of D. My teeth have gotten less sensitive and that's good. So I have nothing objective to say about my results, that you can believe what I say about nutrition. I've heard stories of people's teeth remineralizing according to them, on all sorts of diets, including low fat high fruit raw vegan diet, and a person who doesn't even eat a lot of greens. Whole food nutrition, I think- but corraborate everything for yourself. An error here in analysis or in raw data can be costly indeed, and I'm aware of that and the negativity of hopeful thinking, or 'wanting to believe'

Many of the things I have long "known" are now being questioned and challenged.. and I'm happy about that. For example, I "know" the key to health is eating more alkaline forming foods than acid forming, to have a net alkaline effect. That makes sense, and maybe it's true. I haven't really studied it in depth, critically, but I know the theory. It's an old theory actually. In reading Weston Price, this core theory itself may be challenged. He found and analyzed the acid/alkailne ratios of the primatives and modern, and he found primitives still had dental and physical health on a net acid diet. Again his idea is to stop trying to be a laboratory nutritionist and start eating whole foods. One interesting thing is that very few of primitive populations would likely have had ready access to nightshades, or eaten very little if they did. That's something to think about too

So what do you all think? I told you it would be long!

ps nutrition is only a part of cure tooth decay. I like all of the other parts a lot as well
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thanks for sharing Gerald.
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thank you gerald for sharing. I sometimes think that it makes a different for healing if you live in a a country of abundance landscape like USA ameriaca or russia or parts of asia.

There is also the healing of pictures and feelings. Of dreams healing of being outdoors or with friends.

In germany its very hard even in alternative mediacla circles to get good informations and healing protocols. There seem to be a different for healing in every country. By the way a WAPF a Western Price Foundation Chapter living somewhere close to my area. And she also reproted better health. she said she eat cheap butter a lot and also cheap heavy cream with caragen. they have a little garden and some pigs and grow their own food. she is WAPF chapter for germany.

There are always people claiming miracle healing. especially here in germany. There is a lot frauds under them. People get tricked or slaved. In germany still there is this low fat hype. and people maybe have some other knowledge for healing than in other parts of the world.

I think that water and the quality of water is healing. in whole foods stores we have five or more different water and every water have a different energy or mineral content or is very light. The water of the central american blue zone people was rich in calcium, when i remember right. So what kind of water we drink is probably very necessary.

I notice after staying raw vegan for a week that my digestion got very well and i feeld realy great. after the end i got teeth issue. and i included raw diary and local bird eggs and some bacon from local farms and heavy cream. i felt strong again and i had energy to run and to move. i got the feedback that i look very down and low in energy. somehow i notice raw vegan diet make me more sensitive and spiritual it also can leed to lack of minerals and cravings. there is so much different raw food opinions and lifestyles. the german raw food movement is ell known for its hand made style. while the american have the vitamix 500 dollar blender and cashy powder of superfoods. the german are eating wild edible plant ciclying to spain and eating fruits along the road or being in rawfood camps for self costs in spain and in the south. i fear going to spain the spanish people are very loud and i fear that and also the violenc in the south. the way of violence. there i also violence and drug abuse in the north. maybe much more. If i imagine the rainbow gathering in finnland had 2000people and the one this year in spain will have 3000 and all use the soil as base. this isnt very cofriendly if all let their waste on one place.

I know from ramiles Nagels site that curetoothdeay got mentioned in the norwegian health magazine mat ogg helse. that is very interesting and fit in my experience with the norwegian people. here in this part of germany some people generalize often all countries in scandinavia, stille there is a lot difference in the mentality of this all cultures. maybe this is one big problem to generalize to much and to less honour the difference. I pretty ure that there is still a lot of healing knowledge in the world. In the rainforests and in parts of the world.

I heard that the WWF is supporting companies to cut down rainforest to plant palmoil trees. So we have to decide do we wanna have cheap GMO food and palm oil for newgeneration automobiles or do we have a variety of foods and free medicine and atural resevation for us and our children.

There was a study i heard that all the paranuts in the rainforest give more nutrient than the GMO soyfood ever will give. Its just monoculture.
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Maybe Gerald..you can collect and share some other healing protocolls?
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Thanks everybody. It gives me great satisfaction that you appreciated my reply!

My main healing protocol is to think and to get quality information so that I understand. I'll be the first to admit I'm confused about a lot of things, and there's very little that I know for sure as truth.

I try find good texts, or the book of nature itself, and read and read and question and analyze and keep reading. To that end I"m going to keep reading nutrition and physical degeneration, and I'd also like to read mellanby and page and see what they say. I think for everyone, the best protocol is getting enough water and sun. Batmanghelidj's books are amazing, and I've read some good books on vitamin D (by Hollick). As far as skin cancer, I've heard that is caused by too much sun too fast. I've heard that the more sun you are exposed to gradually, the less likely you are to get cancer. Vitamin D is only one thing produced from the sun. Also endorphins are produced in the skin cells. Also vitamin D does more than prevent rickets, but also helps the immune system. Vitamin D from the sun lasts twice as long in the body than from food sources. Maybe this is why I find myself craving sun so much.

Nil's- can you please elaborate on two things:

1. In germany still there is this low fat hype.

What makes you think eating low fat is a hype? In my opinion whole healthy sourced fats as a source of energy can be healthy and produce healthy bodies and minds, but I also know of many people- too many people, being healthy on high carb low fat. I think, again, that as long as we are eating whole foods, then nutrients aren't our main concern but calories are, and I think both fats and carbs are a better source of energy than proteins. The primitive problem was not for nutrition but for energy. Only a modern westerner could think of the relative advantages or disadvantages of where they get their energy from. No others have that luxury. But to their benefit, they also don't have the luxury of processing their foodstuffs.

2. Interesting to hear about your raw vegan results- good at first and then worse. Here's my take. Recall that I see people thrive on the raw vegan diet although they are both highly informed and highly motivated. Which goes back to my idea that if we eat whole foods, of any type, and we get either our sun or seafood, as well as the other factors of health, we'll be quite healthy. So I've accepted that humans may have been cooking for a very long time and that they've adapted to it or it's changed their physiology (shrunk their gut, grew their brain). It is also less time consuming and it opens up a wide variety of new foods to eat that can't be eaten raw. There are so many advantages to eating cooked, but I also see people doing well living off sweet fruits and green vegetables.

So what I think happened with you and others, who didn't find success- you really don't understand how much you have to eat, to get your calories. And you need to get your calories to get both your energy and perhaps also certain micronutrients- maybe b12, maybe iron? I'm not sure. But I know greens are high in micronutrients. I know those who eat the healthiest tend to worry about nutrition the most. You wouldn't have depleted your stores of b12 or most nutrients in such short time. So what I think happened was simple. You felt good because you still had liver glycogen stores. You didn't eat enough, so your stores diminished, and you were under-fueled or undercarbed, and you maybe went into ketosis, fat burning, and you craved heavier foods. Ketosis also is associated with brain fog and lethargy. You didn't understand that to succeed on raw food, you have to eat like a gorilla, a lot at any given meal or grazing throughout the day on sweet fruits. I see too many people thrive on it to say it's not a healthy way to eat, even for our entire species and all or most members, especially those who can handle the fibre. But it takes motivation and maybe earth's recources, to transport all of those bananas. (Even on the cooked Mcdougall diet you have to or get to eat more food volume than typical of society, but to me it's worth it and I'm satiated). I'm not sure that the move from Quality Cooked Food (CQF) to raw food improves one's health that much if at all, especially provided one eats some raw fruits and vegetables. But done right, and keeping your glycogen stores up, I don't think it results in a decline in health. Interestingly on this raw vegan lifestyle, I was eating so few nightshades.I've noticed also that virtually all of my cavities and problems are located in places that saliva can't hit very easily. It's hot here and so I often wake up with a dry mouth, though I always try to avoid that.

That's sad about the WWF. Palm oil is an ecological disaster. it's destroying borneo!

Ok, addendum- I tend to think that aside from providing all of the other non food factors of healthy living such as sun and nurturing relationships, which are very important and which i could go on and on about, but only talking of food and drink, I tend to think the main protocol is as follows, in this order.

First avoid all foods that are toxic or extremely deficient and processed, like white sugar, or even fruit juice, because these can deplete the body of nutrition and burden the liver. Robert Lustig, on youtube, taught me a lot about the evils of refined fructose. While grains and some starches are relatively empty, I think in the context of a balanced diet, for one in health, these may not be so bad. At the same time I think every crazy diet works and gets results because of what they leave out completely, like modern factory foods at the very least. Also, thanks to people like Michael Fowler and others, I am wary about nightshades. Why do people make such a big deal about these, as opposed to other bad foods? Well only nightshades, according to Fowler, are the only foods that contain not just toxins but neurotoxins. Well, he says, caffeine is as neurotoxin but it is water soluble and flushes right out whereas nightshades accumulate.

If the body is self-healing, which it is, and most problems are caused by toxicity, it follows most healing will occur when one leaves out the bad things. This is my main protocol. Followed by

2. Putting in the good. Healthy whole foods, main concern if we eat whole foods being getting enough calories. I'm always on the calorie quest, the calorie hunt. I've learned recently to cook large amounts so it will last for days and I don't have to think about foods, because I don't currently have a helpmate, to help me make a hearth, and I don't want to depend on restaurants. They serve unsatiating portion sizes and their secret or not so secret ingredients are usually unwanted. I think we all need, or at least benefit, so much, from green leafy vegetables. I think we all benefit from experimenting with various elemination diets for a time, to figure out what foods suit us and what don't.

But again I think get in the non-food factors, leave out the junk foods and bad foods, and then get enough calories from whole foods. Eat more to live more, do NOT starve yourself or practice calorie restriction as a philosophy, only do it as need arises. Eat more healthy food, to live more

In health
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the caffeine half life in our bodies is 6 hours so it does not flush right out...
but i believe eating protein with you caffeine prevents most of its negative effects
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I think fasting is a trend. being slim and fashionable. or fashionvictim. make us more open for the opportunities of the world.

probably that is interesting what you think. i know that people lived on quiet less water in traditional diets for some time. so always be dehydrated is worse. sometimes have less water???? depends on the body or??

Kevin Gianni Work ith this guy Dr. T. Williams together. He analyzed blood of vegetarian in california and found that vegetarian in second or third generation have malnutriend. lack of some nutrients. so its not worth to say people thrive on ten twenty years on a raw vegan, or low fat high carb diet.

Just a aspect you can include in your mind game.

Another aspect i found out if im reading to much i just get headache and craving for whatever. its just we miss our real need of being loved and welcomed by humans the plants animal and the world.

be happy enjoy the life.

i dont think it is always positive. from my experience i can say as a child i could get quiet brown skin from fots. later my skin got much more sensitive and now is something between sensitive and getting healthy brown after some time. still i realy like sun most in shadows or being in sun with people i feel well with.

I live in a area in germany where the nature is very settled by people also public spaces so the places get abused somehow. im a bit scared to collect wild edible plants or other plants or being outside. Its a multilayerd thing. some places are occupied by the modern world, this places need other solutions than places in the remote forest or countryside.

Some places have more ability to heal you with energetic other places heal you more with food.
The soil the stone our life and houses is built on have maybe much more effect than everything else?!
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toxic triggers selfhealing. so if you avoid toxins you never get slef healing. i think?!"
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I don't know that particular source that you are talking about w/ Kevin gianni. Maybe it's true. Maybe they were on unhealthy vegetarian diets. Maybe meat eaters would have been deficient too. Maybe the "levels" that society sets as standard are off. These are critical questions I must ask. I realize more and more that vegetarianISM is just that, an ism, an ideology that can block people from evaluating data. In practice, I don't eat animals, for ethical reasons but also I do think, really think, all nutrients can also be gotten quite easily from plants. I've yet to really see solid arguments against. yes b12 maybe but even meat eaters. I really don't like arguing, to me it's a waste of time so people can believe what they want. I'd be curious about your opinions about a video on youtube by John McDougall called "the Starch Solution". I just watched it and was impressed. I knew what he was all about already but it strikes me as interesting like he says all major civilizations except those isolate exceptions like masai and eskimos were starch based, you name it, egyptian, aztec, european. Nobody in china or vietnam has tooth decay on a rice centered diet. Rice, wheat, corn, beans, sweet potatoes, millet, etc. Didn't these and other starch staples help raise our species up and build civilization? Some would argue we would even now be better off living like gorillas and foraging, but not me :) To say nothing of the long lived people's of the world, who eat very few animal products and often no meat, to say nothing of vegetarians in india. Watch the video, it's good. I do think our primate ancestors ate small amounts of flesh

Hmm maybe that's why one of my teachers, doug graham, said he doesn't use 'the latest study' in any of his teachings, because they can be used to say anything, what the funders want, or else for other reasons not fully quite be all sided or understandable. What he uses are textbooks and books that compile all types of studies together, to get a scholarly accepted view and more developed picture. I see what he means now. It's just too easy to say "this one study proves". What are your thoughts about this?

I think in germany you need to be extra sure to get enough vitamin D in the winter. Interestingly I learned that more D is made in higher elevations even where it's cold in high latitudes, because atmosphere is thinner. I just thought maybe this helped the people of the lotschenthal valley in Der Schweiz be healthier!

Ja ich war in Baden Baden. Das ist ein sehr schoenes Land. Bist du da je gegangen? Oh Ja, sehr schon die Natur. Ich glaube, dass es ein Ort fur Heilen wirklich ist. Ich war da wenn ich traurig war, uber eine Frau, und es hat mir ja geholfen. Geh da!
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dear master of light. servant of light. ground of soil whatever of air. confusion of what? who are we that we know nothing? we know nothing.

just look at doug graham. is he realy healthy. why he has hairloss. why he has shaved beard, why he always smile? where are such people live. why is he so focused on excercise and fitness? have you seen him in jungle in....Kick your guru in the ass and give woman a voice. kick patriachy structure in the health gurus and give mopthers a voice.stop labeling stop calling names. feel and joy. be in the moment and relax.
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kick your teachers in the *** and free yourself. let the woman speak. give woman a voice. consise and from heart.
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Hi wonderful Gerald. miracle sister borther child of thousand whatever wonders...

ihavent been yet in baden baden .. i girl iliked lived there and i stayed at her place in a old lifetime. what ever. yeah baden baden is both healing and destruction.

people take a lot from the "what humans"call nature" actually the definition of nature is is sad. cause it often is to unclose to the things we mean. so better call their namaes or not. ill go to a meeting in denmark where a lot healing will be. i have to share my knowledge with the north. the south people mostly are loud and aggressive. i m very sensitive to sounds.

the silence is in the north. silence is a big healer. the all ever silence of the north is unique.
maybe also painfull. whatever jerry geral mister X.

anonymous....

If you have a clear question i try to answer. or if you have a demand my be i can give you? im not sure what we are now talking on.

Rice maybe. Eating less meat maybe. i like eating less meat.

i also like eating meat in good athmosphere like hiking and outdoors. in places where it is connected to. like indegenous people do.

Good lluck friend of firends....who ever you are mystical internet ghost....

who are you..do you ever whatched movies by terrence malick.. its like you are a bit. a voice over with whispering silence and slightly questioning the essece of life. whith healing storms and thunder in hearts....

take care. actually i wanna leave this intellectual big bang.

maybe we meet one day. otherwise we will have just love in life and heal.
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Gerald Ryan

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I really love silence as well. I am sensitive to noises, especially when I make myself horizontal and try to go to sleep. I wish the world had strict noise ordinances. Noise is stressful and silence or nature sounds are like the music of angels. Even a very small human noise, or barking dog, in the far distance, takes away from the glory of pure silence. Classical music of most types doesn't count as "noise". Always when people blare music, they are never blaring Grieg or Bach or Vivaldi!